Question of the Week – NATIONAL HEALTHCARE
Lauren Kreutziger
March 22, 2010
Filed under News, Top Stories
The bill for national healthcare passed in the Senate and the House, making the bill a reality in the United States. Below is the link to the New York Times Paper. Please read the article before commenting.
www.nytimes.com/2010/03/22/health/policy/22health.html?hp
What are your thoughts on the government passing this bill? Is it what you expected or did you think that the bill would not pass?
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Our Country is in trouble. This Health Care Bill should NOT have passed. I am strongly against it. This affects our generation, who knows how this could affect our future!?! I think Obama needs to really, truly think about the Americans and not just how much money this could bring in. Money is not everything. Our Country needs prayer! We need help, this “Obama Care” isn’t helping!
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I know a lot of people disagree with this bill, but my whole oppinion on this is that, I have a bunch of little brothers, and little boys like to climb trees, fight, ride bikes. This eventually leads to them hurting themselves, sometimes really bad! And my parents can’t take some of them to the hospital because they know it’s going to be thousands of dollars, but they are focused on how we are going to pay the bills!
People shouldn’t have to make a decision to go into debt or sell their home just because they’re sick and they need medical help and I hope this is going to help.
Rep. Marsha Blackburn, said that “Freedom dies a little bit today, that’s the real problem with this — we’re becoming like other parts of the world where they don’t have the freedom to choose,”
That’s only because we as American’s are very selfish, and want things our way, so we can never come to a complete decision with each other. Somebody just decided it was time to take control. Is this for the better? Only time will tell, right now I say let things just go along with the flow.
In the grand scheme of things, this (the world, America, us as a people) will not matter at all, because we are all going to die one day. Then lot’s of people will be upset that they wasted their brainspace being mad about something they couldn’t do anything about.
Why?
Because we are all “squirrels trying to get a nut…”
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i am not sure how i feel about the whole situation. Emanual: i agree with you to an extent. i mean yes, we are selfish americans in a whole. and yes we shouldnt waste our time worrying about this when we can do nothing about it at the time.
but what happens when everyone gets this “obamba care” and other practices go out of business? as soon as that happens, i am certain, that “Obama Care” prices will raise majorly. then americans will be stuck. nowhere else to go to because everywhere else will have already closed down? then what will we do?
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Everything is going to be fine. We heard the same complaints(Socialism, high costs, loss of choice) when Social Security started 70 years ago and again 30 years ago when Medicare/Medicaid was instituted.
The fact is that Americans pay half the taxes that most of the rest of the developed world pays. Most of these nations provide health-care – until today, we did not. We will maintain our position as one of the least taxed nations in the world, the place where the best doctors want to come to practice medicine and now those who cannot afford to have coverage, will have coverage.
While I am opposed to bigger government, this plan only creates a public “option” – nobody has to buy insurance from the government and I say that is a step in the right direction.
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America was created on this: that it is for the PEOPLE. So, then why if the people do not want this bill did they pass it? The government is not merely to rule, but to listen. Shouldn’t it be a sign to Mr. Obama, when several states say they will file law suits against this bill, that this bill is not what the american people want? Why are they trying to please the few who have no insurance when 95% of the people with insurance are happy with our policy now? It’s We the People, not We the Government. Truly we need to be praying each day for the men who are running this country.
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I think that in the long run the health care reform will be good for America. We needed some sort of change and this was a good first step. No, the bill is not perfect. Not many things are in the beginning. But I’m sure over time things will get changed. The bill has many pros and cons but I feel that the pros greatly outweigh the cons.
The 35 million people who were uninsured before now have health insurance. So not only is that a plus for them, but also for the people already insured. It will lower the rates of those already insured, plus they won’t have to pay for the uninsured anymore. Prescription costs have been lowered. And now people with pre-existing conditions can’t be denied health insurance, which is huge.
Health care will cost a lot. But in the long run we will gain the money back. Obama says that the money used for health care will be used from the money that is wasted in other areas therefore not affecting the deficit. I’m not sure if I can believe this but we’ll see what happens.
But all in all, I don’t see what is so bad about it. But either way you look at it not every American is gonna be happy, so you just have to deal with the change and like Emmanuel said, just go with the flow.
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I think this bill should not have been passed. It’s just weakening America and causing lots more problems among us Americans. Obama’s decision making is not benefiting us at all, and although he’s the president, which I will support, I strongly disagree with this action plan and think he needs to do a better job with health care. This isn’t the way to do it.
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I think that our healthcare is in trouble. We need to have this bill to clear things up. Yes, there is a possibility that something will go wrong with the healthcare bill. But it is worth the risk. He is getting all this critisizm about doing this bill.But think about all the critisism he would get if he didnt try to pass the bill. It will give millions of uninsured people health care that they desperatly need. I believe that when that bill is passed, everyone will be grateful that they have health insurance.This bill is also for the greater good. Even though a couple of million people will still not have health insurance, there is still even more millions that will have health insurance. Like the editor said this not a political issue, it is a moral one. He will be saving countless of peoples lives by them having health insurance.
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This bill should not of passed, because it did it will put other insurance companies out of buisness. Yes you have a choice to pick tour own insurance companies but because the government does not have to make money to stay in buisness they can offer the same coverage for a cheaper price it will but the other companies out of buisness. Another thing is that if you change jobs from a job with health insurance you must choose a government health plan this is just not right. The fact that congress is exempt from these bills that they pass should show you what a good bill they are.
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This is a little scary. Alot of people are saying this is great or this is terrible but do not state their main concern. It would be better if each person could state why it was good or bad. If people voting for the health care of America cannot come to an agreement without negotiation of who will get this or get that it’s bound to have flaws.
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For the record, this won’t drive existing insurance companies out of business; the government is requiring that people have health care from existing insurance companies, and if a family can’t afford to pay for it, then the government will foot the bill. This bill just means that the insurance companies won’t be able to turn away anybody for insurance.
For the record, too, I think health care is a basic right. I’m sure we’ve all heard of “Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”? This will guarantee life, at least, for thousands a year who aren’t able to afford medical bills.
As for the costs, who knows? Uninsured people seriously affect the amount of money that taxpayers have to pay (that is, more insured people = less taxpayer money). As for the taxes, Obama’s just going to slightly increase the taxes among people who can afford it, which he said he was going to do anyway. But, really, I don’t think there’s a way to how it will affect the costs until it actually happens.
I think in thirty or forty years we’ll all love our insurance and wonder how people in the 2000s ever lived without it.
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There are alot of things on all points of views on this bill the i agree and disagree with, First i do agree that something had to be done to provide healthcare for those who are unable, i know that if i were in that situation i would not like to make the decision to loose the home or a child but was the bill the right thing to do? I think that we are on the right track and thought pattern but let us slow down, think it through and do it right the first time. From experiance growing up ive noticed that if you slow down, work hard and make sure you do it right the first time, usually problems arent as likely to happen down the road. I think in the long run were going to feel the effects of this. I agree with Coach Roberts that other nations have what were trying to acheive but they also arent in the same situation (not in trillions of dollars of debt). To conclude i think the right idea was there just not the right method of how to obtain national heath care
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Im Speaking in responce to Immanuel Houston. Hey I understand that your borthers and sisters can get sick and also I understand that you don’t want your family to go into debt, but with certain taxes going up in the long run your parents willl pay the same. This time the governemt is telling your parents they have to pay for it…They NO LONGER have a choice and if you don’t do it then the IRS comes to your house and slaps you with a fine. Thats more government contorl then I’m comfortable with
Why as a nation built on the ideas of freedom and the American dream are allowing people to choose not be forced. There were and still are much better ways to handel our health care problem, but by spending trillions of dollars on this health care bill its going to cause inflation which will cause the price to rise no matter what….Its time for us to take a stand and not let the governemt make choices against the people. ( Sorry if any words are miss spelled)
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I think it is good that the bill passed. I feel like it will get help to all the Americans that coundn’t get it before. I know it might not have have been the best time to do this because of how bad our economy is right now. But I think in the long run Americans will deffinately be glad that it passed.
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You know, Aaron. You said there are better ways to handle the situation we are in, and that is the problem I think America is having. All of these people saying, “Oh, there are plenty of ways to solve the problem…” and then, for some unknown reaon, never offer these problems as a solution. Do I agree with everything Obama or Nancy Peloi says? No! But I respect them because they “manned-up” took a shot at trying to help us out.
As of yesterday, the U.S. had the most screwed up healthcare system. as of today…we still kinda of do, but it’s better then what we had! There is no sensible reason why (americans) taxpayers, should be subsidising the health-insurance premiums of people who work for large companies, but not do the same thing for those who own small businesses.
Why sick people who pay high insurance premiums (the idea that people who get sick should have to pay vastly more for insurance violates people’s basic ideas of fairness, and indeed the entire concept of insurance) should be subsidising the emergency-room guarantee for peppy young people who decide not to get insurance because of that.
Or why we should all be paying the insurance premiums of a wealthy 65-year-old under the SSA, while doing nothing for a working-class 64-year-old! Obama’s bill isn’t going to eliminate the unfairness and discrimination in the American health-insurance system; we aren’t a communist country now, but we now have a system that’s really less unfair than it was yesterday.
BTW: Aaron, prices were already rising before this bill and you know it. Bush messed us up a long time ago! Prices will go up for a little, but after it has, it will significantly drop because of the major amount of debt we will be able to pay off.
For all the people who think that jobs and insurance companies are going down the drain, you should probably do a little more research. Check this quote from CNN–
“One major reason for this crisis is that many employers have stopped offering insurance to employees because of the high cost. In the United States, total health care spending was $2.4 trillion in 2007 — or $7,900 per person — according to an analysis published in the journal Health Affairs. The United States spends 52 percent more per person than the next most costly nation, Norway, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. There’s little debate that health care reform is necessary — ”
Finally, if you are going to disagree, please put a reason why you do, instead of just going with what ever you hear you parents say, like a lot of people are doing. Get your own oppinion (like cheez its), that’s what debates are about.
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I think that whats done is done… but that doesn’t mean I agree or disagree with the bill. I think everyone has some points that they agree with and some that they do not (like me). For example I don’t like that the fact that are taxes are going to be raised even higher just to pay this off, because we are already in debt and taxes, in my opinion, are already kinda high.
Example two: I do like that you are covered under your parents plan until your 26 (if you so choose). This gives young and newly expreinced adults in the workforce able to make some money and learn for themsleves how they might pay it off.
So I do agree with parts but disagree with others. So before you make a decision think really hard on why YOU do or do not like something.
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Is healthcare reform good? I’m not sure. I really have mixed feelings on the health care reform initiative. I am against big governments and government putting their hands in too much; however, the health care bill does have some positive points. The bill allows parents keep their children on there insurance plan until they are 26, which allows time for students and people fresh out of college to enter the workforce and establish themselves so they can gain economic footing. Also, the public option means that private insurance companies no longer have a monopoly on the market and that will encourage competition. Competition is always good for the consumer, in this case, the American public. I do think the reforms maybe detrimental to small businesses that now have to provide addition coverage for employees. Will the bill turn out to be a positive step for our country? I really don’t know. I think that only time and closer examination will reveal the true nature of the health care reform and the winner of the great debate.
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BTW Immanuel…If you think I needed to get this information from my parents your far underminding me. I take much time to research in to politics. On you part you should proble try listening to both sides of the story…You really have a mear One sided view of how the health care will work. ( Also when having a debate your supost to have a civil maner about a debate but you attcked me head on because you attacked me head on I did the same to you…I’m disoppointed in you)
Now on to the debate You said “But I respect them (Obama and peloi) because they “manned-up” took a shot at trying to help us out.” Do you really undertsand what they did. Under their bill taxes will go up so then your paying more. Even if the cost of health care goes down your still going to be paying a larger amount in the long run when instead of $6 dollars coming out of your pay check you have $15 coming out of your pay check and then your still paying for more on gas and sales taxes and even some taxes you have never even heard of. Then they also brought the IRS into it and is permitting them to fine you $700 for not having health care. So you say looking out for you is forcing you to buy a private practice or pay a fine. On top of that you will pay a HUGE amount more in taxes.
Now you said “As of yesterday, the U.S. had the most screwed up healthcare system. as of today…we still kinda of do, but it’s better then what we had!” Now did you know that the prime minister of canada came to America to have surgery. So your saying that the counrty that has the one of the WORSE health care in the world has people from other countrys that have a single payer program ( We will not be taken that kind of health care ) Are coming here because they like are health care better….Yeah seems like we had somthing right. Also we have the best doctors in the world. Doctors from all around the world come here because they get paid the best. So if Obama would have gotten what he wanted ( Which was a single payer system which is what he wanted and you can look that up any where ) then we would have lost the best doctors in the world. Yeah it seems like are health care is doing somthing right…but you say its the worse health care is the world. Sounds like you have something confused. Now again I do agree that some things are REALLY wrong with it, but we had the right idea.
When sick people pay higher for their insurance its no diffrent then when people pay more for your car insurance when you get in a wreck…Now some people can’t help it when they get sick and there are several programs in private insurance that keeps their prices low.
Also if your a wealthy and over 65 years of age your not on the SSA ( The SSA is a governemt controlled program that YOU pay for not a private practice like are health insurance. the government makes you pay for it, but you now like it when they contorl a bit of your health care??? That confuses me???) Now on to your CNN quote…Companys would rather pay a one time fine of $750 DOLLARS then paying $400 every 2 months so that means that bussiness will not buy health insurance because it will be cheaper not to buy it…GO NEW HEALTH CARE… any way I would like you to go read the Republicans solution to health care http://www.gop.gov/solutions/healthcare it makes much more sence then just letting the government have control. I alreadys talked about your last comment at the start of this… ( typed this fast sorry about the stuff spelled wrong )
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The comment above was written by Aaron Talmage lol sorry.
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Ok two above this comment was written by Aaron Talmage ( THE REALLY LONG ONE)
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I think it’s good that the health care bill passed. It will cover 32 million people who were uninsured before, but there will still be 23 million who aren’t. It is also good because it could not deny coverage to children with medical problems. It also allows kids to stay on their parent’s plan until they are 26. Over all I think it was good that it got passed.
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with what i already know about this National Healthcare bill and what i just read i would have to say that i do not agree with this bill. there are alot of different opinions on the bill and i am very open minded. maybe things will turn out for the best with this plan. maybe is will put us all even further in debt. i personally dont like the idea because i think that you should have to work for what you get. alot of ppl go to school and get good jobs and make alot of money and can affod their own healthcare. some ppl are lazy and dont work and dont have healthcare. for those who are lazy, the ones who work their whole lives to get their money now have to give up MORE of their money on top of the other taxes that they pay to support the lazy ppl. now this isnt always the case.. someone might have wanted to go to college and get a good education but couldnt because they couldnt afford it. they could work to get the money and pay for it. maybe they didnt make enough to support them selfves and save for college. i think that maybe in this situation we should help them untill they are able to pay for college and a good education. however i dont think that it should be forced! i think that should be donated money. another point is the higer class ppl are not getting more money taken out of their paychecks then the ppl who dont make as much just cuz they have money! the taxes should be equal no matter your class!
we will just have to wait and hope for the best outcome of this healthcare plan.
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I agree with this bill passing because it’s going to help a lot of people and insurance companies can’t drop you just because you have used to much of their money. Also I am sick of people saying “you just need to get a job” some people are in bad situations and can’t just go out out and find jobs. For example people who are on disabilty are not allowed to get jobs so how are they supposed to get health insurance? Also people saying that this is unconstitutional is a big joke because isn’t it in the constitution that all men should be treated equally? Also is it really a bad thing to want to provide everyone with health care? Americans have always been about helping each other. So what if we have to take a little money out of out pockets to help our fellow Americans.
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I think that the new health care plan is both good and bad. It’s good because it provides millions of americans that don’t have health insurance with free health care. But, it’s bad because it increases our nation’s debt by about $900 billion. Obama’s next plan had better be about our debt and pretty much not spending anything more than necessary.
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I dont really have an opinion on this healthcare bill but i do not think everyone should get all worked up over a bill that they cant change and just accept the changes how they are. Also, why this is good is because the bill will give the American people who did not have insurance, people who could not afford insurance, and people with who have pre-existing conditions.
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I am glad the healthcare plan passed. For middle class people like my parents, insurance is practically a waste of money because they wont cover anything really necessary. If the healthcare bill will make insurance companies cover the things we actually need, I’m glad for the change.
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i think that this bill is going against freedoms of Americans. i think its going to raise taxes to much and it will be bad in the long run.
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i think that this bill shouldnt have been passed because this bill was passed our taxes are going to be even higher than they already were. they say they want to get out of debt but with this new bill, we are going in deeper into debt.
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I think that the worst thing about healthcare is the fact that we have to pay more now on taxes and that the economy is bad now so not many people want to pay for it. I guess it could come in handy later though.
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From what I’m hearing about this new Healthcare Bill, I’m not too happy with it. I don’t like the fact that this is being forced on us. I mean, it’s great that people are now going to be covered, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of our taxes being raised even higher, possibly putting this country more into debt. President Obama was able to lock in more votes for this bill because he made an executive order saying that the part in the bill about abortion in the bill was to be taken out. The bad part about that is, he could totally change his mind after he signed the bill and our taxes could be going to help pay for abortions. That does not sit well with me at all.
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I do agree with some parts of the bill but then again a disagree with others. Coverage of a pre-existing condition is one part of the bill that I agree with while healthcare being mandatory for all Americans is something I do not.
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I believe that right now the Healthcare Bill is going to hurt Americans that can already afford it ,but help the ones who can’t. And in the long run it will help America once all the parts of it have time to take effect. Everybody clearly has their own opinion on this issue and people should just let others speak their mind.
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As with almost any bill there are some pros and cons. It’s a good idea because it bans health insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions and provides alot of others with healthcare. It is a bad idea because it is going to increase our nations taxes.
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I’m sorry but i am not for either side. On the side where people say that they don’t want this new Healthcare i can see why. People are worried that this is giving the government too much control, and that will lead to socialism. Well if you really think about it, we already have some socialism in the country. The government already runs, for example, schools. So socialism isn’t much of a good diffence.
Then there is the side that wants Healthcare. It is a good thing to have because it will reach people that can’t afford it. It allows people with pre-existing conditions to get coverage. It’s more of a long term thing. You have too look into the future. Say you are later diagnosed with Huntington’s disease? Without this Healthcare I can almost promise that no one would cover you, and if you were already covered the company would drop you. It’s alot about the money and the insurance companies would rather lose a life than a profit.
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The reason people come to America for treatment is not because our healthcare system was NOT run by the government. They come to America for one reason – our doctors are the best in the world. The reason we attract the best doctors in the world is because we pay them more in America than they do in any other country.
The healthcare bill does nothing that will change that – in other words, we will continue to attract the best doctors in the world and people will continue to come to America for treatment.
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Honestly at this point in time, something needs to change in the system that we have today. i do tend to support the public option. It is a way for the government to make more revenue (which is alright, we still will be the lowest taxed developed country in the world) and be able to support the people of the united states more efficently and effectively as a whole.
Now, some people are afraid of a system of socialized medicine, however america ALREADY has socialized medicine. IT’s just a really really expensive and innefficent system of it. Think about this. Is healthcare a privilegde or a right? When someone comes into the emergency room, if healthscare was a priveledge, that person would have to pay for their care upfront. However that is not what occurs in hospitals in america. You are given care, regardless of if you can pay that doctors bill or not. That is because healthcare is a RIGHT not a PRIVELEDGE. Now if healthcare is a right, like the right to get an education, to have public roads, etc. than that government is responsible for providing some of that care. That is what a “public” option is. IT will not eliminate private healthcare companies, just give the people of this country an alternate to expensive private healthcare. It will provide competition in the market, much like car insurance is today. This will in turn lower health costs, because companies will now have to compete for your business instead of charging the maximum amount they can, knowing you cannot go anywhere else. This country was founded on the ideals of capitilism and competition in a given market. All the feared “public option” will do is lower healthcare costs for american people. It will not be monopolized by the government. something has to change. there is no reason the greatest country in the would should be behind the curve (and almost last!!) in providing for it’s own people.
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When I think of the U.S. government, I picture a huge toddler stumbling all over the place, picking things up and dropping them and falling on its butt. So now picture this huge toddler picking up an important issue. The baby is going to babble at it, stick it in its mouth and slobber on it, and basically mess it up (even more than it already was).
Really, let’s repeal this legislation and try another way. SOMEONE in government MIGHT be smart enough (might is the key word) to figure it out.
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I think passing the health care bill was a good idea because i know alot of people who have serious diseases and can’t be treated because of their pre-existing condition. This is unfair to me, what if I had some illness that would cost alot of money to treat and i couldn’t be helped? So am i just going to be allowed to die? Even though the sickness wasn’t my fault? Ridiculous….so yes im glad they passed the bill. HOWEVER.. with our current money debt this seems like an insane thing to pass at this point in time. We basically added more crud to the dung heap… more work for the future generations to clean up…
From the way things are going it looks like instead of getting cleaned up it’ll just grow. There goes Social Security out the window..
What happened to the theory that you shouldn’t pay for things that you don’t have money for? It appears the government are hypocrites telling the people one thing and then doing the very thing they are against themselves. I think that the government and the world need to get their act together and show some responsiblity with their paychecks and credit cards. I mean seriously…Good grief…….
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I think that the healthcare thing is good!
it will help so many people that have been rejected by insurance companies because of pre-existing conditions. i think that its terrible someone would deny coverage because “its a risk”. these people then go bankrupt from trying to stay healthy.
I think that raising taxes for the bill is okay; many other countries have handled their healthcare the same way, and the citizens are happy for the most part.
the only thing im am not so excited for is that insurance is going to be run by the government. the government usually screws things up. On the other hand, i thnk that the goverment needs to step in because so far, we havent done a very good job.
most people cant just “get a job” or “get an education”. things are SOOOOO much more complicated than that.
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the reason that the senate and congress don’t care what we say once their in office is that they passed a bill a while a go that pays them for their time in office and they get payed what they would if they were still working in the senate
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To address one more issue – was this Healthcare Bill the will of the people?
Absolutely!
We elect our Senators and Representatives. Our elected officials passed the bill. How then could someone say that it is NOT the will of the people?
As far as the 12 States that are filing a law-suit goes being a sign that it is NOT the will of the people – there may be 12 that are suing, but there are 38 States that are not suing. Also, most legal experts that have commented on the suit by these 12 states(including SC) have said that this suit does not stand a chance in court. The suit is nothing more than a protest by Republican States against a Democratic President and Congress.
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One thing that stood out to me when I was looking up news on the healthcare. I came upon a video of Nancy Pelosi (dirtbag of Congress) saying, “Just think. We will be just like those who established Social Security and the Civil right movement”. These people have shown that they do not care whether the healthcare bill is constitutional or whether they ended up tearing up the legislative system to get it. Yet, you who support the bill trust these very same people who, like Nancy Pelosi, only care about making a huge change, whether it is good or bad. This bill has the government taking a stronger role in dictating our lives. Nancy Pelosi, in this same video, insisted this is what the founders would have wanted. This is pure idiocy. Unlike the founders, who believed government was a necessary evil, this act has the government taking a stronger role in our lives. Acts like these represent a serious flaw in the interpretation of the constitution
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Landon your my hero, one thing i would like to add is that if the government wanted to just lower insure. premiums why did it take over 2000 pages to say so. No one even knows all of the “if’s” “and’s” and “but’s” of the bill since the entire bill has not been released yet. If they truely have nothing to hid why are they doing so? How can we properly vote on what hasnt been throughly disscused and agreed upon.
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The problem of taxing (and getting rid of the national debt) is very easily solved. Legalize marajuana. If marajuana was legalized and taxed like tabacco is, we could eliminate our national debt in a year. So, now that we have national health care, I believe it’s time for some legal weed.
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Oh, actually, it’s now 14 states suing the government. Who knows how many more will join? I think we need to start practicing our Heil Hitlers………
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Comment back On coach Roberts…
The way our Representatives votes is like the way the Electoral college votes…Even though a state may vote one way on a Electoral for the president the Electoral college does not have to vote that way it is their will to vote whichever way, not ours!!!! BUT If they want to keep their jobs then they will vote the will of the people. Since the Representatives did not vote the way of the people a lot of them will lose their jobs. You can’t say it was the will of the people when a large majority did not want it and the Representatives did not vote the way of the people…Also I dare any one reading this to go start reading the health care bill. I read a few random pages…Exciting news were going to be building hospitals for and I quote “INDIAN HEALTH SERVICE Medical qual13
ity assurance records created by or for any Indian Health
14 Program or a health program of an Urban Indian Organi15
zation as part of a medical quality assurance program are
16 confidential and privileged. Such records may not be dis17
closed to any person or entity, except as provided in sub18
section (c).” Any one understand why we need this???
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Honestly I dont get what the big deal is. from what i heard, sure you get money taken out of your pay checks for it but you dont have to pay your own insurance until you are 26. you can stay on your parents so for you people that think its only hurting you, youre wrong. Insurance costs money, its easier for you to pay a little out of your check than to pay insurance at 19. Chill out and calm down if everyone thinks our country is so great and that is why they are coming here then lets think like them. dont be so negative, all that does is make people mad or sad and i mean our ancestors moved here to be happy and free so lets make them proud!
stop all this fighting and arguing, that obviously isnt changing anything. the heath care is still passed and just think back in the day when the government was saying you had to go to war for your country people pitched a fit but now i dont see threats flying around when someone gets drafted.
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To be honest, the only reason I’m posting this is because it’s a requirement for Mr. Roberts. Since I have yet to read the entirety of the bill, it seems too soon for me to really make an informed decision. However, for the most part, I think I agree with the bill. I really liked reading what ya’ll have to say, but some of you guys definitely need to use spell check before you post something! I especially liked what Mr. Roberts, Brooke, and Nikki had to say.
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I really dont know anything about the topic, which is really sad but i will surely get back to you on this commenting thing…..
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The only real big problem that I see is that it’s going to raise taxes for people who work. I think its good that more people are going to be insured but how much money am I gonna have to pay…i mean i could be wrong cause i dont understand the whole bill fully…
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I think that the healthcare is totally unconstitutional. It Requires americans to buy somthing that they really dont need to
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I feel this bill should not have been passed, but that is my opinion. Did you ever wonder why a Senator would change his vote from no to yes on health care after taking a ride on Air force one with Mr. Obama? Sounds like something happened on the plane.
Obama is a very smart person, but doesn’t realize what he is doing to the country. If this bill is fair, then why did he try to pass it before the Massachusetts representative could get in office? And why have we yet to see his birth certificate? Once I see answers to these questions!
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Well, obviously we can’t trust our government, because it was found that they added a student loan thing into the bill, and it is ILLEGAL! So, the bill has to go back to the House for revoting. If they stuck one illegal thing in the 2,000 page bill, how do we know they didn’t stick in more than that?
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I think that we need to have done somthing about health care because obviously what we were doing before wasn’t working. I don’t agree with everything in the health care bill but I still think we should give it a chance because at least someone is trying to help out the problems we are having.
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there are postitive and negative sides to the healthcare bill on the positive side things like eing able to stay on parentsw plan until you turn 26 but on the negative side there is a tax increase and it will cost the government billions of dollars that they really dont have.
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Love it or hate it there’s nothing we can do about it, so just suck it up and live with it. People always complain about things, but they rarely ever do anything or take initiative. So I take the put up or shut up philosophy on this issue. I choose to take the shut up route, because I feel it would be a waste of time to battle such a highly supported bill.
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I don’t like the bill. I don’t think that people should be forced to pay a fien for something they don’t want. I am sure that some people in the group that were covered don’t mind that they were; however, what if some of them didn’t want that. Obama did something that people possibly don’t want. No matter how much I disagree with it though, nothing is going to change. It has already been passed so there isn’t much I can do about it especially since I am a minor and my opinion doesn’t really count.
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I don’t like it. I agree there are people who need help, but it shouldn’t be forced on everyone. If we don’t want to rely on the government then we shouldn’t have to pay them not to cover us and pay our private insurance company. That’s worse than not having health care at all. We should have the choice and we shouldn’t have to pay extra to make it. End of Story!
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You can really only tell if this was a good or a bad thing when you’re in the future looking back and history can run its course. Right now, since it’s been passed, the only thing we can really do is sit back and watch it play itself out. Complaining isn’t going to repeal the bill or make us feel any better about ourselves (well, it wouldn’t make ME feel any better about myself, I don’t know about the rest of you…).
Maybe in twenty years Obama will be hailed as a genius, or maybe in twenty years he will be blamed for the crashing and burning of the USA, I dunno. Maybe it won’t noticeably change daily life. Too early to tell…
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Oh, and on a second thought, if you were planning to go into the medical field and you’re freaking out because you think this will change your pay or the way that things were supposed to go for you, maybe you should think about going into another field. You need to want to help people, not just want to make 6 digit figures a year.
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From what I know it’s costing the government more money, and they already don’t have any money… but we’re all going to be poor one day so thats ok with me. I agree with a lot of people by saying that it is pointless to argue about this because there’s nothing we can do.
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I think it’s a good thing that more people will be insured. Thats a really good thing for them. I also think it’s good that prescription costs will be lowered. I’m not sure how. It’s hard to say how good this bill will be for America in the long run. We will have to wait to see how things turn out.
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I’m not to familiar with the health care bill to make any judgement on it, but I know it can’t be that bad. Having health care to me is just like having car insurance. I think we will need both.
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I heard over the news that about 49 of the states are suing because of this bill. The article said that ‘Americans would embrace the bill when they saw its benefits, including some provisions that take effect later this year.’ This statement appears to be wrong if most of the United States are speaking out against it.
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As I still don’t understand this bill a 100% I can’t completely argue it. However I will bring up the question of some people saying it’s unconstitutional to make people buy this. Now, I’m against a bigger government but sense the bill did pass I can understand why they make everyone have it. First off you already have to buy things that some people don’t want and if you don’t now you will soon, for example car insurance. If you drive you have to have car insurance by law. So is this unconstitutional also sense some people wouldn’t buy car insurance if they didn’t have to? Some would say yes but if you got into a wreck that wasn’t your fault and the person who caused it couldn’t pay you and you don’t get money to fix your car because they don’t have car insurance than you might not think it was unconstitutional anymore. Now granite I realize health and car insurance are two totally different things but the point is we are already being forced to pay for things we don’t want so we can’t act like this is a new thing. On top of that this bill isn’t even going to affect a lot of us right now and there are other things that are more important. One question I did have is that this bill passing seems to have a shady side to it; I would like to know some of the secret conversations that went on before the bill. I’m also a little concerned about how the doctors will react to the bill and if this new plan will create long waiting periods to get into a hospital or doctors office like Canada’s heath care plan has.
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I think that although the health care bill will help those without coverage, I am against taxes and raising the federal debt even higher than it already is.
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i dont know wheather or not to go with the health care thing just because i dont know enough about it. I know the pros but not the cons and it kind of scares me.
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I do not believe that the healthcare bill should have passed, but we can’t do anything about that. I agree that something needs to be done with healthcare, but this bill was not it. The government does not need to be raising taxse to support the bill, because of the amount of people who are in debt and/or do not have a job. Because I have not read the bill, I can’t really say anything more about it without sounding ignorant.
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I am glad the whole thing is done and over with. Every though i do not agree with the whole goverment taking in charge of heathcare; it is better that it is done and over with now because NOW it is DOING more than it was before when everyone was debating…
Whats with the whole 50 % Co pay for senior Citizens though?!!!!
they are paying waaaaaaay too much and they need the medicine its totally messed up.
But with the whole no prexisting conditions thing is great because that was a horrible thing to do; to deny people just because of what they were born into.
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I don’t know what I really think about this whole thing, but I do see some need for some of those 7 main points. (ex. no pre-exsiting conditions) The media needed to explain the bill more then just argue about it for the better part of the year.
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i think that thew bill has some good ideas along with some bad. being able to stay on your parents insurance till your 26 will be a big help to alot of kids going to college and the ones that dont have good jobs that offer healthcare.
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I think the reformed health care will be really beneficial to America. Of course our taxes will go up, but other countries such as France use this type of Health Care and it seems to make people their content.
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I think it might a good thing to have the Health care bill but then it COST SO MUCH. I also think we should try it out and see what it can do for the country. It might be a good thing or not, we just need to see what happens.
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I feel that this healthcare bill is a good thing for many reasons. The first of these is pre-existing health problem for example before now I knew that it would be extremely diffuclt for me to get health care. The second was the cost of healthcare with my last hospital bill being around 5 to 7 thousand dollars, at least I was covered by my parents healthcare. Right now I feel what is begin discussed and argued in the news is to one side for those individual are most likly covered and have good health unlike some of us in this country.
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I am not the type of person who keeps up with politics. Truth be told, I can barely remember the names of recurring actors. Despite these mental inconsistencies, even I have heard many things about the health care bill.
I know very little, but what I do know sounds good. Take, for instance, the people with pre-existing conditions. Before this bill was passed, it was practically imposssible for someone with diabetes to obtain affordable health. Now, health insurance companies are not allowed to turn these types of people away.
From the sound of things, I’d say that the uproars of “Socialism!” and “Unconstitutionalism!” are little more than indignant shouts from the uninformed masses. This bill is a good, people are just too scared to change what they see as the norm. In addition, socialism is already a part of America. Look at the road systems. I once heard a saying that I think applies to this situation; “A person is smart, but people are idiots.”
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I think that this healthcare bill is good at a certain extent. It has its positives like no pre-existing conditions- can’t be excluded, eliminates the doughnut holes, insures 32 million people out of 45 million people that aren’t covered. But it has its negatives like running our national debt up, people are REQUIRED to have healthcare, and it promotes socialism. At this point I believe we should let it take its course.
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I think that the health insurance provided in the bill will definitely be a good thing for those who were previously unable to afford it. I think that it was neccessary for the government to do SOMETHING about all of the people with no health care, but I’m not convinced that this was the thing or the time to do so. We already have such a big deficit, is it really wise to get even further in debt? We are in a hole and are just digging it deeper and deeper. As much as the citizens of America need health care, they do not need higher taxes. Its rough enough just paying taxes as it is with unemployment so high. I think that the government should have waited until they provided more jobs and the the unemployment rate decreased before passing the health care bill.
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By forcing companies to offer either healthcare coverage or high enough pay so that employees can afford healthcare, we are forcing even more jobs over seas. If I was the owner of a company and I was more concerned with making money then unemployment, I would send my work over seas where I don’t have to offer health coverage or high pay to every one of my employees. I would leave a small headquarters in the United States and operate mainly out of foreign countries. How is this good for the economy? Raising Social Security taxes and Medicare/Medicaid taxes isn’t going to come close to covering all of these new expences either. Social Security is a fail to begin with and is pretty much dead/dying. How is raising taxes on paychecks AND requiring healthcare going to make the economy better? People automatically have less money because of their smaller checks, which means less spending. Then they are required by law to purchase health coverage and maintain that coverage each month, which means even less spending. Don’t get me wrong, I think that everyone should have healthcare coverage, but how is this going to help the economy when no one spends money and jobs drop due to companies leaving the country?
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The health care bill has many good qualities about it, but it also has many bad qualities about it. For young adults the age raising to twenty-six is a good idea to help them worry about paying other bills and not having to worry about finding a job right out of school that can cover them with health insurance.
Despite the taxes that have been raising gradually through out the years. Creating a free health care system that can cover thirty-two million out of the fourty-five million people in the country that is not covered at this moment will raise taxes more over in the long run for everyone. For example France may have a free health care system and some people even say France has the best system, but what some people don’t understand is that they have the highest taxes in the world at around 44%. While the United States may have had more expensive health care before the bill passed. The United States also had one of the lowest tax rates in the world at around 21%. So France may have the free health care system at that moment, but in the long run they are still paying for it in the taxes they have to pay each year.
People also say that requiring health care is unconstitutional and against the law, but in reality if that is unconstitutional then requiring car insurance is as well. Many people have no problem with having to pay car insurance, but once they heard about health care a lot of things went into an uproar.
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There are pros and cons to each healthcare plan or any plan for that matter. There is never going to be a healthcare plan or budget plan or anything that satisfies both sides. Too many people just listen to what other friends, parents, relatives, etc tell them and they dont look straight at the facts to decide what they think is really best. Alot of kids will grow up with strong republican or strong democratic parents and they just blindly follow the same path. They do the same thing that the elected democrats and republicans do right now which is just automatically disagree with the other side. Alot of people hear word of mouth from those around them about the healthcare bill and that is how they form their opinion. They don’t actually look at all the points in the bill and form their own opinion. I just had a debate with someone the other day talking about how bad the healthcare bill was for this country and 3 or 4 of the points they listed were not even in the bill. Most people that argue against the bill say that it is raising taxes and that we are going to be taxed horribly. While no one likes paying taxes (especially when they go up) America has one of THE LOWEST tax rates for developed countries in the world. We are paying about half of what the European countries are paying for taxes. Alot of others complain that Obama is trying to make us a socialist country. The same thing was said when Social Security and Medicare were implemented years ago. We aren’t socialist yet.
Republicans lie, Democrats lie, and they both just automatically disagree with the other because that is what our politics have evolved into. It is also a dumb argument when a certain side tries to blame the other for the state of our country right now. There is not one side that is more at fault than the other. Politicians need to quit worrying about making alot of money and staying in office and start worrying about doing what they said they would do when they were sworn into office. There are good and bad points with this healthcare bill. There were good and bad points with what we had previously going. Anything passed is going to have pros and cons, we just have to see which pros and cons we like dealing with more. We needed a change in the system so we have one. Whether it is good or bad only time will tell no matter what argument you give.
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Also, (I did not include this in the previous comment) Americans complain the most about their rising insurance prices, yet when there is a piece of legislation that can lower those prices you condemn it. But those same people who condemn it when asked for an alternative way to provide cheaper health insurance FAIL to offer a response.
I feel if you cannot offer your own solution to a problem. DO NOT Condemn another’s effort to solve that same problem.
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So for everyone talking about increased taxes, we as a Nation are in the lowest percentile, as far as taxes go. And honestly I guarentee that those talking about “Increased Taxes,” don’t even pay taxes. But if you do, how’d you like to live in Sweeden, where your taxed over 50% of your income.Okay now that I just smashed the tax thing, I believe health care is a right, not a priviledge. As Americans, the little taxes we pay to the federal government should ensure us certain safeguards. Health care being one of those safeguards. We should be able to have access not just to health care, but affordable health care. Prior to the bill being passed, health care costs were exceeding, and were going to continue to exceede if nothing was done. Now national health care provides coverage, but also the bill includes sevral things. What I mainly support about the bill is that it eliminates the companies from not covering someone due to thier pre-existing conditions. Okay question. Those of you who don’t support national health care, do you believe it’s right for a greedy company to deny someone who has HIV/AIDS (FROM BIRTH) heath care? Alright, now the company has the right to do whatever they please that is lawful. However, denying coverage due to a pre-existing condition goes against one of the main principles this country was founded on. “Every man created equal.” We as American citizens share the same freedoms and rights. if the gov’t had not stepped into the health care situation, companies could deny a person, based off of anything (ie: religous beliefs, race, sex). And not have to explain exactly why they decidede to save a fraction of their millions by not granting some health care. So overall I know that the health care bill is going to work, and since it’s passed you have no other choice that to get on the obama bandwagon and support our gov’t.
-DEE MONSTA
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Does anyone know if they have revoted on the bill in the House yet? If so, what did they vote?
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I think, we can agree…to disagree (3
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In retrospect, this was probably the best comments on any article ever.
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